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Tuesday, November 07, 2006

saddam got sentenced to hanging, tt's something i dun quite agree with.

such a wretched person deserved to have his limbs sawed off with a chain saw, and then slowly get stoned to death... :) (oh so ironic as it maybe to persecute someone who committed a crime against humanity, in such an inhumane way..)

but on the brighter side, 2 papers ended today. pity i just write wayyy too slowly to finish writing all that i have to say, but whatever. and stupid cofm.. tt was the biggest bunch of bull i've written in a while.. :X

and i received a complaint, which then sparked off a flurry of other complaints in agreement, about my blog template. apparently the 3 columns are a nuisance to pple who like to randomly place their mouse in an arbitrary spot on the screen, yet scroll the column they so desire. anyone else? :)

below, an absolutely tickling stand up comedy by ruby pan..

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

I don't know if we can say the state should support the criminals. Ideally, there should be ample rehabilitation programs such that these criminals will be able to contribute to society while serving their (life) sentence.

I hesistate to refer to any form of killing as humane, but for the sake of argument, there are strong reasons to believe the long drop is the most humane method. Properly executed, it has the advantage of snapping the spine and therefore causing instant unconsciousness and rapid death. Lethal injection, on the other hand, takes more than half an hour from start to the end, with the inmate acutely aware of his impending death. It is also impossible to tell if it is indeed painless - the inmate may be paralysed by the drug and unable to communicate his agony. One argument against hanging is that it leads to strangulation if procedural mistakes are made. Do note however, that there have been botched attempts of both lethal injection and hanging.

This was the literature I perused:
http://www.richard.clark32.btinternet.co.uk/

Lethal injection may be more humane... but only for the audience present. It is after all, much less dramatic and lacks the climatic finish and attendant shock of hanging.

[i(an]g) said...

well i sort of concur with chang...

but seriously no country really has space or money to keep criminals forever while they serve their life sentence... if they do, what, should we start giving them like full first class medical benefits too cos if not it is inhumane considering we are keeping them there for that long...

i mean yes you said they could start making them contribute to society... but what? outsourcing centers? yeah maybe, they could like receive phone calls of katrina donation help lines... haha... right... well but not denying it is a possibility...

well it is just too troublesome... it's like trying to set up a communist society... i hear 1.6 billion people gasping... i mean you say do work so that we won't hang you, doesn't mean they will put in 100% to justify the intensive work community we try to set up within the prison system...

just kill them... they know the law... they shouldn't have broken them... i mean of course there is the thing about false conviction... that should not be blamed on the sentence lor... it's the judicial system that should be corrected... like the stupid jury system...

gosh today we just learned how ridiculous kid's testimonials can get and all the ridiculous child abuse/sexual abuse cases that most likely innocent parties were convicted... some children are so stupid!!! in detail next time...

Xin Quan said...

well i feel, like yihan, tt killing is justified. i think that if you took some one else's life, you should have taken away someone's life to live, and you too should have tt right revoked. i mean, it is only fair isn't it? and i am never for the life sentence, i think it is a waste of society's resources. i mean, even with all their 'contributions' in prison, do you seriously think they make enough to compensate for the meals they eat, or the manpower involved in running a prison? no! so the more prisoners there are, the more tax is wasted.

of course, i am not saying you should be executed for petty crimes, i mean tt, if had to choose between giving a death sentence or a life sentence, i would give the criminal a death sentence. and from my point of view, it is more humane too. i rather be dead than be imprisoned for life.

as for the lethal injection vs the hanging thing, i read an article abt it before, and really, i think they are probably both equally painless, and it is just nicer to see someone die by lethal injection rather than have his neck broken.. ;)

Anonymous said...

How is capital punishment more humane than the life sentence? Clearly the criminals don't agree. I've known criminals to appeal the death penalty and have it lessened to life imprisonment but not the other way round.

If cost is a concern, studies have shown that the death penalty system is very expensive, in fact more expensive than life imprisonment without parole. The whole system is clogged up with appeals, and at the end of the day a sizable number do escape the penalty and get life ultimately (deeming all the trials before practically useless and a waste of money).

Sentences usually fall under one or more of this categories: deterrence, rehabilitative, compensatory (to the victims) or retributive. The death penalty supposedly falls under the first and the last. To begin with, I believe only homicide cases deserve this retributive tag, i.e. they're the only cases for which there should be any remote justifications at all - but death penalty extends to many crimes far less severe. Next, I think retribution is rather infantile (not that I'm not personally susceptible to the concept haha), but capital punishment is just too severe and irreversible to be cavalier about. Killing the criminal won't bring the dead back to life.

Then there's the wrongful convictions issue that yh pointed out. How can we justify even killing 1 innocent person even if the judicial system's right on another 1000? And that's a good ratio already. There's no consistency at all.

I don't think there's sufficient evidence to show the death penalty is a deterrent. A fair proportion of murders are not premeditated. Besides, using fear to control the population is just... not right. The desire to do good should come from within, so deterrence doesn't solve the fundamental problems.

@yh: read about the flaws of suggestive memory techniques before. looking forward to your piece.

[i(an]g) said...

well i won't respond much cos i have to go study for exams... boo... so nothing on suggestive memory... maybe tell you all about it in person... easier...

so anyways, chang are your stats right about the cost.. cos i have a feeling the death penalty thing being more expensive is just with regards to trials... does it take into consideration the whole thing about housing the prisoners, guards employed and prisons to be built...

i mean ok come to think of it, seriously if you look at the prison system in the states it is pathetic... it's no high class changi prison... so maybe it can be cheaper...

whatever it is i am not saying everybody should be hanged... but like cruel murders... you know those that they plan... they like scheme and try to hide and then like csi guys catch them in the end... those weird hannibal people whatever that are obviously cruel... those... go ahead and hang them... cos it is deterrent and retributive... it's closure that the majority of society seeks... period.

as for the whole argument of hanging or injection... i go for hanging cos it's cheaper and has been proven to be less complicated and less instantaneous... cheap cheap cheap tt's all that matters...

and who cares about which is looks better, xq... i mean the whole US thing of having people see some guy get his lethal injection is sick in my opinion... so scrap it!

so let's go to singapore hanging drug dealers... i think it's right... drug arms dealers... all should be hanged... cos the govt is right... these guys are the primary source of ruining so many lives... so yeah it sends a msg out, esp on all planes... it's death penalty... don't try... if they are desperate enough to go ahead and they get caught then too bad la!

any thoughts? hang them!!! kill the pig! kill the pig! kill the kill the kill the pig!!!